and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. Your Price: $744.13. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. thats what matter and they put that last. This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. Sooner or later they are going to destroy you. Why does anyone ever even try to work with them? An M1A was at the top of my wish list that I saving for. Great grip and trigger. Rock River Arms had one seat. You can bet our sport; Henry wouldnt have gone along with that. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? Theyre sole purpose is to protect their own interests. Springfield for intention; RRA for negligence. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. Probably go back to looking at CZ and Walther offerings. Yes, that is the cloud which is usually much larger than the silver lining. Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. Had a Springfield 1911 that I sold late last year to fund another purchase and was thinking of replacing it with a TRP at some point guess this gives me all the excuses I needed to spend a few hundred more for a Dan Wesson or an STI. You are both dead to me now. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. Your Price: $744.13. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. We there the courts kill the law or the governor vetoes it, nothing changes the sellout by Springfield. The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. Enjoy 45% Off Rock River Arms Goods At Walmart. So, youre not buying a bunch of Springfields new pistols? I asked one. The licensing fee? Now Springfield will learn the hard way. Thats not fighting to protect gun owners. If IFMA had stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the NRA-ILA, the Illinois State Rifle Association, Guns Save Lifeand the National Shooting Sports Foundation working as a team to oppose this egregiousbill wed have had a good chance of depriving anti-gunners of a badly needed win. Sure enough, the bill passed theSenate by a single vote. Fuck them for gouging desperate buyers. Henry and Ruger for the win. Pick something and follow it. I was just about to order another springfield xdm .45. County fairs? If you dont like their price dont buy. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. I also find their use of Springfield Armory in their advertising repulsive, implying over 240 years of history in the current company, starting in 1777. Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. Until I see some evidence that they knew of and/or supported this I will not rush to blame RRA for what a trade industry group that they happen to fund did. Well, now. Springfield is DEAD to me. AR-10-style rifles, the Rock River Arms LAR-8 stands alone. Theres no way to know for sure. I totally agree Travis. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. IRS records have also been found that shows Reese is on the board of IFMA. Its transfers. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. Oh, hell no, he told me. Ive refused to buy S&W products since then, with the sole exception of a Model 640 Pro .357 Magnum, which lacks the damned thing. Along with lost new sales, this boneheaded move will kill resale values. The dimensions and leade of the .223 Remington minimum C.I.P. Never give one inch or miles will be lost. With an MSRP of $860, it is a capable rifle at great price point. Good for them, too. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. The .308-caliber LAR-8 is plenty of gun for big-game hunting. The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. If you want to scope your BM 59, there is a company that makes a direct over the bore scope kit for Garands that fits the BM59. Hinterland #: 50977; MFG #: MT1800X; In stock. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. Neither will have the working capitol to sustain a relocation. Screw them. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. If youre looking for a good, dependable AR at a reasonable price, I dont think you And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. CTD are dirtbags plain and simple. Well after reading this and let me add no love for blue Illinois my days with SA are over. I hear you on that Ruger. Start by giving everyone involved a TSA-style probe. This is a digital day/night scope. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. The firearms community will be better without them. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. Good luck! If youve already implemented them, great. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. When a big box store is competitive on price with the local gun shop, you know there is a problem. Ruger today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Huh? Search Ruger anti gun. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Or companies selling imported crap that pretend to be American. Katrina gun confiscation showed us what any civil conflict will have as the belligerents, LEOs / Feds posing as LEOs giving you a hard choice.and a few Bundy-style standoffs. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. Very close to where I grew up. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. Thanks for Nothing SA. And no one calls or emails the company that is one of the largest contributor the IFMA group. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. The owners at S&W that colluded with Clinton paid the price for it. Taurus? Sadly I have two. There never was a Henry fi rearms company (until 2002). After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. You have entered an incorrect email address! Who Makes Rock River Arms? If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. He might want to eject before the SS Springfield capsizes. There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. Both Ruger and S&W learned from their mistakes, I do not know if these two can. I.e., Target blamed climate change on revenue misses. Hes hurt the small guys trying to kiss up to the big retailers here in Illinois. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. Illinois gun owners should pack up and move across the Mississippi to Missouri. Any I have to ask WHY? The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. Two? Whats the hangup for SA? The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock River Arms probably isnt the best option. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. Magpul moved to WY. No offense intended. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. That alone is enough to put them out of business. An XD and its in .40? And to be fair, those are twice the price of the Ruger. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. Two more companies added to my do not buy from list. Springfield Armory had two, and their now-fired lobbyist held the fourth IFMA directorship. I am not positive, but didnt Beretta get so pissed with Maryland that they moved everything, or is it still on going? As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. Half of those are national groups out of Washington, D.C., that have set up shop inSpringfield hotels. Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. Theyre both stuck now. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. This would appear to be financial suicide by Springfield. Was also saving up for an m1a. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. Advertise their treachery. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. As far as the trigger, if the RRA has the 2-stage trigger, it is much better than the stag. Just as its equally acceptable for folks like me to attempt to boycott them into bankruptcy. No offense meant, I was just pointing out that Springfield Armory has no connection to the city of Springfield Illinois. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? they should have fought not laid over. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. Which would help with elimination if in the future. I have family that works in the town. Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! Do they somehow know the licensing scheme is going to be corrupt or extremely expensive? I have a Rock River PDS carbine. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. In fairness, Sprin gfield Arm ory isnt the only one to co-opt a name that it had no connection to (cough-Henry-cough). Its a freakin disaster. Low character move. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. Rock River Arms earned their reputation by manufacturing some of the most accurate and reliable semi-auto rifles for the law enforcement and civilian markets. Ive spoken with a couple of bigger dealers in Illinois in the past 24 hours. The Ruger is berween $6-700. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. Maybe they should look to Beretta. As an Illinois dealer, I will no longer stock, sell or support Rock River Arms or Springfield Armory products. They profess innocence at this point, lets see if their actions match their words. They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. This was a bit disingenuous because, basically, both companies were And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. CZ-75/85 are great guns. The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. Shame! Im not ordering anything Springfield. Pennsylvania checking in. Screw that. Could be paperweights. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. had I known earlier, I might have bought a few more colt revolvers..god I wish Id known. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. Screw CTD. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. Im not buying a damn thing from Springfield and there is NO EXPIRATION DATE ON THAT. Rock solid performer. And then maybe. Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. Id bet a bunch of employees would jump at the chance go move from IL to TN or MO or TX. How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? So many good options, why buy from jackasses. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Since 2002. I fail to see how giving the box stores a leg up on the gun shops helps Rock River or Springfield Arms in any way. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. Then beg for forgiveness. Never, ever. Several other really good CCs out there too if you want one of the big mfgs. A CEO that listens to the customer. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. WebProduct Description. The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. And I believe it came with an internal lock on the main spring housing. Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. once you jump in bed with the marketing types. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. WebRock River Arms creates high quality rifles and pistols on the AR platform. I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. Good luck with that RRA. ! mantra. Easy there tough guy. Might see if you can find one to test out. I know people who continue to not buy Ruger even after his kids made up for the old mans traitorous ways. So Rock River Arms story is complete crap and a bald faced LIE on the order of, I did not have sex with that women. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. They must be put out of business for their treachery. Rock Rivers AR builds are superb, and they come in at a price thats quite reasonable (starting at $1,585). They ignored it. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. As if they want to implode. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. 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