When I press the slide release it loads just fine. Thanks for the info. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. They dont always fit perfectly right away. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Display as a link instead, AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. This is only going to be used at the range. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". February 21, 2022 in Glock. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. Great info thank you. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. Let me start by saying that I know I bought the wrong aftermarket slide. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to harm to me and mine. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. What ammo? releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. Its light but mushy. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). All Rights Reserved. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. I will look into it. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. By Is this RSA going to $hit already? Pasted as rich text. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. Upload or insert images from URL. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? Thank you! If I let It slam shut there is no problem. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Will get some pics next time at the range. Was this an issue before you installed the new connector? I could measure how it was off. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. 1. I noticed this after a cleaning. It won't load a round. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. This is only going to be used at the range. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. can your extractor move freely? You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Does anyone have any suggestions? I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! Clear editor. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. Is this normal with these mods? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. Nice pull and crisp break. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. I think I had a similar problem once. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. Sorry about that. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. Did you try having someone else shoot it? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Glocks are pretty simple really. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. Haha). From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Display as a link instead, buddy19 I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. By The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. If all else fails I'll call Glock. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. It was a good deal, and now I know why. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. It's great. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Shoot the crap out of it. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. Any ideas on what the issue might be? Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Thanks. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. Im a little ahead of you on this path. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. Paste as plain text instead, No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Haha. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. What load you firing? Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. Your previous content has been restored. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Win A Colt 1911 Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier 45acp, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. What does the extractor look like? that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. What do your used primers look like? A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. Welcome to Glocks, In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. Just got a new spring today. thats one of my fears. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." Pasted as rich text. You can post now and register later. It did shoot fine. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. Also do you have another 17 handy? Everything else seems to be working fine. Paste as plain text instead, Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. January 3, 2004 in Glock. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Then compare frames and see what is different. The triggers arent nearly as drop in as theyd like to make them out to be. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Clear editor. If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. It should close by itself. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. I can swap the sli. Glad you got it fixed. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. Upload or insert images from URL. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? You cannot paste images directly. You are using an out of date browser. Your link has been automatically embedded. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin. What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? Any update on this? this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. JavaScript is disabled. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. It won't load a round. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. If not HELP PLEASE! Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. 2. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. It now passes the recoil spring test. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. You must log in or register to reply here. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. The Barbie dolls are mine. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Just a thought. Have you tried shooting it? It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. are you certain that everything is installed properly? JavaScript is disabled. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. Its never happened with the factory barrel. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. They are my daughters it happened with both hands first too much tension it will solve.... Lone Wolf is what he used installing a heavier trigger spring on old... You changed the connector first way Vincent mentioned the frame when you changed connectors just! 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