Had it for about 6 months now and been to the range several times. All semi auto weapons will jam at one time or another, and dont feel the same in everyones hand.. Trigger sucked. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. Makes me question the authors intentions in this article. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. Take down the Pico. Does this guy have any gun expertise? While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. I have 2 of them. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. lol Damon really? Theyve reportedly improved it in newer model LCPs. I used to have one. Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. Probably ran 150 round through it so far. And probably never fired one. So the recoil is stout. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg Lol, a very nice DAO, the new Gen is much lighter. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. Aside from the problems others have mentioned, the thing is slippery as hell. Do not yank the magazine friends. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. If its good Ill spread the word. We indicate sponsored content as such. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Im pretty surprised the P3AT isnt on this list. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. 3) SCCY Industries CPX-2(4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes). I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. The reason I hated it was they are DAO and the trigger pull was a mile long, i found my self pulling the trigger again before it reset. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. NOPE! They claimed to have test fired it after repair. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. Five for sure and nobody can show otherwise. Sure just I liked the gun otherwise, but the awful trigger was a total deal breaker for me. I sell guns and have ZERO hesitation about selling someone a CPX-2 for everyday carry. In light of that, the valuable service you claim hes doing may well be smoke and mirrors. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. (dead serious) took it right back to the store. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. Id have to disagree with the cpx2s place on the list even though the company had growing pains. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. Non shooters called me a liar that we could do it, but any bad guy within 30 yards is in great danger, even though it has been a long time. Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. The trigger is exactly like a double action revolver. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. The mag will spring out when done correctly. I own a hp380. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). My God, have you really shot or even handled one? TCP and P3AT triggers were clearly worlds better than it. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). Really disappointed in how this was presented. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. You can buy 1911s now. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. Its tight, even well after break-in. Have owned and shot most of them. Mine also runs well, and they feel really well made. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. WebBeretta Pico: Worst .380 In the World?! (Including the book he wrote about how to cheat Amazon buyers by faking reviews.). I appreciate the review. I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. To quote his expertise is laughable. the fact you just dont like it? 8===D~. But the reset on the trigger was so ridiculously long Id often miss follow up shots because I handt let it out far enough to reset. 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ Nope. I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. Horrible, awful trigger. I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. Must be the best gun ever. +1. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. Do you really know anything about pocket guns? Uh no. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. These arent big enough vote pools anyway. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. How do they perform? I would think a pocket gun would be best kept in .380 or 9mm. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. My SCCY runs like a champ. I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? Guess what? Its been reliable since then for me. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. Here is some news for you. But, in real life event, the trigger want matter. Kahr CW 380. I like the concept at least. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. That being said, the LCP II can also be carried IWB or in an ankle holster just as easily as it could be carried in a pocket. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. This gun is selling better than ever years later. I shoot pocket guns all the time. So, I would never consider one. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. I have to disagree about the SCCY CPX-2. Heck, the CM40s steel-framed brother, the MK40, is currently ranked in the top 5 (granted, with only 10 votes so far). So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. You can get these on line at times for Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. They know media though. BUT! Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. Both nice guns, the Pico is the clear winner. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. Built like a tank. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. The LCP isnt that bad. Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. Stainless steel throughout the gun. Then Ill be unstoppable!!!!! Remarkable build quality. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. The Beretta Tomcat, though only .32, much fatter, and blowback, is a far, far superior gun. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. It is my bicycle gun. I dont see it. How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. Its pretty clear why. . But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. Actually bought a second one. I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. Its that bad. Do you perhaps have a very early one? The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. This gun is budget-friendly and chambered substantially (9mm). You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. Getting the trigger on the safety notch is something you should never goof around with. They are kind of like the Nancy Pelosis in the outdoor industry. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. Worked fine til the last shot on the second reload. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? Also LCP. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Wisdom of the crowd is an awfully unknown thing to be making life-and-death decisions on. Anyone have the Bersa .380. Are you kidding me? Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. Ruger LCP Max 2. The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. Thanks for your post. The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. I carry in the front pocket and have trouble with the stupid buttons that accidentally release the mag. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. 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