For my children, I did what I had to do. You know, its Jimmy Webbs song originally, but. GROSS: So this track features you, Natalie Hemby and Yola as a guest artist on it. Shed been learning to play classical music on But one time, you know, not everybody could make a show. SHIRES: I mean OK Im going to call her up after this, too. And if you want another kind of love, Ill wear a mask for you. GROSS: That your Father had spent 25 years in Alcatraz? I know they enjoy it. And she was doing the bail bonding on the night. And then in my mind I thought, well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? Why was that the verse that you wrote or sang for yourself? Former Drive-By Trucker is enjoying a breakout moment with new album 'Southeastern'. The Highwomen were tapped as last-minute fill ins, though founding member Amanda Shires was unable to attend as she continues to recover from an emergency I could just trust based on how Leonard Cohen did all that work for us. And I think theres more valuable strength there than there is in suppressing your emotions and poisoning yourself with your own feelings, I guess. ISBELL: (Singing) And all I could think to say was. And if you want a doctor, Ill examine every inch of you. 99.99%. AMANDA SHIRES: (Singing) Youre leaving now through the hole of an argument. When her distinctive vibrato appears on To the Sunset, as a subtle emotive tool or punctuation in her storytelling, it feels like an electrical charge shuddering through the live wire of her voice. Is a chrysalis a butterfly? Were you in Texas at the time? SHIRES: I really do feel like he did a lot of work for me that I dont have to do. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. Its not more threatening than the idea of taking away the services and the work that doctors and nurses do. photos by @alyssegafkjen So what didnt you like about your voice? GROSS: And me of you, so thank you. Chris Tompkins, a high school friend who has co-written mainstream country hits including Carrie Underwoods Before He Cheats and Florida Georgia Lines Get Your Shine On, says Isbell seemed on a different level even back when they were covering Stairway to Heaven together. Why didnt more people show up and speak up? We followed a coyote through the dust of Mexico. GROSS: So you ended up, like, accompanying him. People will have to prove that they have been raped. GROSS: Good. I never wouldve thought that before, but now I know its true. How are we going to police that? This is FRESH AIR. All Rights reserved. Lets get back to my interview with singer, songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Being from Muscle Shoals is kind of like having a cool tattoo or something., After getting sober, writing and recording the new album felt more natural to me, says Isbell, lighting a cigarette as seagulls caw overhead. And from there, he introduced me to Frankie McWhorter. I like the way these lines kind of happened in our lives and like tributaries in a way that we dont realize are happening. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. SHIRES: Oh, yes, Mercy is my daughter. So by the time I went into the hospital, my fallopian tube had already ruptured. SHIRES: My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen. The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time GROSS: OK. Editors picks And I was like, thats what I want to do, because you play this song. (Playing guitar, singing) Like a common loon, I started hearing birds, birdsong everywhere. Jason Isbell, Amanda Shires to Serve as Record Store Days 2023 Ambassadors. SHIRES: When I write songs, I go into it either with an idea to explore something, make sense of the world or my feelings, you know, all that. Note: NPR's First Listen audio comes down after the album is released. Refunds at point of purchase but were working on rescheduling. Long before weathering the isolating COVID-19 pandemic, Shires had endured years of studio experiences where producers and musicians undermined her Snubbing the King: Why Don't Big Stars Want to Perform at Charles' Coronation? My daughter was about a year old, and I was getting into my touring van because I hadnt worked my way into a bus yet. And then I thought about Waylon and Kris and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, they were kind of speaking about ageism. When the ball goes in the pocket, you win. Writing songs isnt so cut and dried, he says. And then you also get to play you get to improvise, which is when you go off the page, as they say, or you just play what you feel within the chords. You can say I lost my grip. Shes also one of the founders of the group the Highwomen. A lark in the shower from the night to the morning after. SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. Web0:00 / 2:57 Amanda Shires - Fault Lines (Official Audio) Amanda Shires 26.8K subscribers Subscribe 23K views 6 months ago "Fault Lines" is on Amanda Shires' new album. I hope that if Roe v. Wade is overturned, it causes such a fucking uproar that we end up with more rights than we had before. Isbell said he had to cancel his Asheville shows scheduled for Jan. 11-12, but he and his team are working to reschedule shows in Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre and Wilmington. What made you think of yourself as his disciple? And one day we wound up in the studio and we cut the song. requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test, even facing backlash from his fellow artists, Buy newspaper front pages, posters and more. I would she would set us up in the in the closet of the bail bonds office. However, you can still listen with the Spotify or Apple Music playlist at the bottom of the page. But I am living still. We want to hear it. You know, like, how does that go? So I would be studying my pieces. And we would be quiet so that she wouldnt get in trouble because it was a lot then to be a single mom and deal with the difference in pay for men versus women. So its probably important to stay alive before you start questioning your liberty.. SHIRES: Theres this song called Milk Cow Blues. Its blues, you know? "Isn't it just like a daughter to make a fool of you? Theres so much attached to folks thinking women treat it as a kind of birth control. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. And I said, yeah, I feel like theres not a lot happening there emotionally for me. Every one of them except for me survived. Here Are The Republicans Who Want Him Kicked Out, Rupert Murdoch Must Tell Fox News Hosts To Stop Spreading Election Lies, Congressional Democrats Demand, Trump Attacks Rupert Murdoch And Fox NewsAgainClaiming Destruction Of America Amid Defamation Lawsuit, These U.S.-Listed Stocks SurgeAlibaba, Baidu And MoreAfter Chinas Economic Rebound, Top NFL Prospect Jalen Carter Charged For Alleged Role In Fatal Street Race, Bite-Sized TikTok Poetry Blows UpAlong With Growing Claims Of Plagiarism, As Delta Variant Spreads, Artists and Venues Scramble to Keep Concerts Safe, Live Nation Allows Artists to Require Vaccination or Proof of Negative Test Result for U.S. Concerts. OK. 1,286 talking about this. Ive found and scrounged and continue to for every interview that hes done in any form, in any language. But they also understood that I was a kid. Recognition has been building steadily; he won Song of the Year at the 2012 Americana Honors and Awards at the Ryman Auditorium last September for Alabama Pines. He calls his superb backing band the 400 Unit, after the psychiatric ward of a hospital near Muscle Shoals, the part of the state where he grew up. And but I think for the players in the band, they took me seriously as a player. Thank you for your songs. Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. GROSS: So that was the Highwomen, which is a song performed by the supergroup The Highwomen, which was co-founded by my guest, Amanda Shires, and Brandi Carlile. SHIRES: I began writing that song when I did the record My Piece Of Land a long while back. And she was also holding down a day job as a single mom. The South is in need of a lot of help, Shires tells Rolling Stone. In 2020, she penned an op-ed for Rolling Stone about why abortion rights matter. GROSS: Was this your mothers father or your fathers father? And then it was never like, oh, they have to be on a record once I do record them. Well be right back. I was playing a music festival, and I noticed that there was a fiddle on stage with Billy Joe. Theyre just songs because everybody goes through troubles in their relationship. There were probably 2,500 people, and Im just standing there with a guitar, elevated and facing everyone. GROSS: You grew up in Lubbock, Texas, and Mineral Wells, Texas. Im glad to be a listener and also glad to see folks from those generations supporting the right to choose. And we met. In 2017, for her solo work, she was named emerging artist of the year at the Americana Music & Honors Awards ceremony. The Problem wraps up by driving home the weight of the decision for her character. SHIRES: Theres a medication that you cant take right now after, you know, about two weeks after this happened to me. You can just say Im crazy. SHIRES: Thats all you have to say? You can have as much fun. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Kitty Eisele adapted it for the web. It took me a minute to really learn how to improvise, Shires says of those early years. SHIRES: I just I have never been a fan of the way my voice sounds. "Through a sunset, shifting gears, to the something better shining diamond clear.". Too caught up in the way I want you rolling over me. 2023 WNET. If you want a boxer, Ill step in the ring for you. You slammed the door so hard I still hear rattling spoons. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer, musician Amanda Shires. And I was like, my granddad was in Alcatraz? SHIRES: Thank you so much. Amanda Shires is in Serious Trouble in Hawk for the Dove Fallon Performance GROSS: Your mother earlier in her life worked as a bail bondsman, right? Her new album is called Take It Like A Man.. In 2020, The Highwomen won Album of the Year at the Americana Music Honors and Awards ceremony. On August 9, 2021 And then I thought about Waylon [Jennings] and Kris [Kristofferson] and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, They were kind of speaking about ageism. I said, Itd be cool if I had a band, The Highwomen. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. And we met. GROSS: Oh, I wish he could have heard you do it. GROSS: Yeah. And I was really into that.. SHIRES: Yep, yep on his songs without asking him. I know I can take it like a man. But I thought, what am I going to do about that, in the event that she does go into country music? Rock & roll kids just let decisions make themselves. Like, dont cry; dont show your emotions; be stoic; be strong; everything else is weakness. Lawrence Rothman has been a model of self accepting themselves. And I know that he likes to help. As Delta Variant Spreads, Artists and Venues Scramble to Keep Concerts Safe (Rolling Stone), Live Nation Allows Artists to Require Vaccination or Proof of Negative Test Result for U.S. Concerts (Variety), This is a BETA experience. And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. Thats the percentage of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 who have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to the CDC. People dont have to come to a concert, Isbell said. In "Leave It Alone," a song introduced by a brittle, programmed loop and a jangly, arpeggiated guitar figure, she elegantly describes exploring a new lover's body: "Hands find the places where they've never been, to know for themselves new surfaces / And mine, they've got a mind of their own / I can't leave it alone." FRESH AIRs executive producer is Danny Miller. This fight is about more than just abortion. When it came down to it, when I finally got it done and recorded, Amy Coney Barrett had gotten sworn in. Its as opposed to being in the uterus, where it belongs. Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. Jason Isbell) Official Video ft. Jason Isbell Watch on Tour Dates Track to get concert, live stream and tour updates. Amanda Shires. Shires plays fiddle in the band. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. All Rights Reserved. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. And it just worked when we did it. Hearing these stories, I think that it makes your backbone stronger. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. This is FRESH AIR. Amanda Shires, performing during the Americana Awards at Ryman Auditorium on Sept. 22, 2021 in Nashville. So lets do that. SHIRES: I didnt know anything about them. And Tommy said, if you can hold down that lower third harmony and Id love to, you know, have that spot filled. Ive listened to all of his records. Members get extended access to PBS video on demand and more. I hope you get well soon. Isbell responded, Thank you Aimee. The next year, she won a Grammy for best americana album as part of her husbands group, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. Im your Amanda. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. GROSS: With the Texas Playboys when youre performing with them or something that you learned from one of your teachers but that really made you fall in love with the style and that epitomizes what that style is. I would have died had this procedure not been available to me. GROSS: The bail bondsmen are often their offices are often located in a very low-rent part of town. So Amanda, you took fiddle lessons from Frankie McWhorter, who played with Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 60 to 62 62 was the year that Bob Wills had a heart attack and retired for a long time from music. She has a big conscience, a big heart. It was keeping me up at night. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. I heard in 22 songs, one womans voice I heard. And so I felt in my mind, I felt those things. Wills was the father of western swing. Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell depict a couple having an honest, difficult conversation about abortion in the new song The Problem.. Victoria is scheduled to open for Isbell on this tour. The bastards hung me at the Salem gallows hill. Life cant help but interfere. (Singing) Time was all Id want. I was doing fine, and then, I was just like no sound would come out of my mouth. And I also went to Greece and hung out at his house. JASON ISBELL: (Singing) What do you want to do? Shires character wrestles with the decision and the right thing to do in her situation, while Isbells character offers his support for whatever decision she makes. And I save them all. What does that phrase mean to you? Having recently moved to Nashville with Shires whose own fourth solo album, Down Fell the Doves, comes out next week the newlyweds will sequester themselves in different corners of the house to write new songs, then play them for each other. WebBEHIND THE SCENES with Amanda Shires | Backstage at the Ryman Presented by Nissan | Ryman Auditorium 11,820 views Jan 1, 2019 92 Dislike Share Ryman Auditorium If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires. Other than that, I think were all right. It seems like a simple thing to say, but its really true. And I said, I dont know. SHIRES: About singing, yes. And then she wanted to know if it was real, so she hired a private investigator and all this. Since writing that op-ed, I have had reproductive healthcare that some might call an abortion when I was hospitalized in Texas on August 9, 2021, with a ruptured fallopian tube caused by an ectopic pregnancy. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. And I told my mom to come over because I had something to show her. But, yeah, after a while thinking about it, I got more comfortable with it. And thank you for putting up with me. And I was reading mine. But and after you did the main melody part, you get to improvise. I know I can take it like Amanda. You used to lean in like I was whispering, any excuse to get near again. Do you need the reasons why? Me and @JasonIsbell RCA studio B making a musical recording. While the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made this Highwomen be a thing. Trending Amanda Shires is a singing, songwriting. Shires started playing fiddle professionally when she was 15 with the band the Texas Playboys, which used to be led by Bob Wills, the father of Western Swing. The way she relaxes into low notes on that last line makes it sound far more like an unembarrassed confession than a complaint. Look at Texas' Primary. They all feel good, he says of making records, and they all feel really bad when youre working, simultaneously.. I could tell my milk cow I could tell by the way she lows. Then Im like, This is coming out now., Jason Isbell on the Art of the Livestream, Supporting Indie Record Stores, and That Feral Hogs Meme, Devon Gilfillian to Cover Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On' With Jason Isbell, Grace Potter, Jason Isbell Blasts Van Morrison, Covers 'Into the Mystic'. The singer, songwriter and fiddler found comfort with an unexpected collaborator and plumbed new depths on her latest album, Take It Like a Man. Amanda Shires has an MFA in poetry, and she's exacting in her use of imagery to portray sensuality as a force both internal and physical. I like to play pool, he says. I know I can take it like a man. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. Weve had legal abortions for 50 years and now, suddenly, a long-held right will be illegal. When Shires was in the hospital giving birth to their daughter, Mercy, in 2015, she had to disclose to her doctor, with her husband and mother in the room, that shed had an abortion. Shires would go on to make a name for herself, both as a solo artist and as the founder of the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. GROSS: You know, youve said that a lot of the songs on this album come from a troubled period of your marriage to songwriter and singer Jason Isbell, who you perform with and who plays on this album. Jason Isbell will put his tour on hold after announcing he tested positive with for COVID-19. My daughter was about a year old, and I was getting into my touring van because I hadnt worked my way into a bus yet. But she was very good at keeping a lot of secrets. I got up to sing, and I was like, oh, crap. I think she probably knew 100%, but.. GROSS: Were you nervous about being on stage or just about singing? Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Ann Marie Baldonado, Thea Chaloner, Seth Kelley and Susan Nyakundi. And this is basically, like, a country supergroup. GROSS: What would the right voice for you like, whats wrong what doesnt match? Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist, Naming The Beast: Jason Isbell And Amanda Shires On Speaking Up In 2017. Thats the song Faultlines, performed by Amanda Shires with Zach Setchfield on guitar in Amandas home studio outside of Nashville, Tenn. Thats one of the songs on her new album, Take It Like a Man. So lets talk about that song a little bit. Do you have you do a great version of Im Your Man, his song, Im Your Man, on YouTube. SHIRES: I didnt know I was going to work it into a song until I got to the to writing it. And I think they probably had conversations that you would, if you were that close to each other, about that stuff and didnt bring it up. Amy Salit and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. I also received responses from trolls. SHIRES: In 2016, I was going on the road. Im going to change the subject here. Say whatever feels better or whatever. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. Its a great song, so I thought wed play some of it. And thats when the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. Since starting I So Lounging, Shires YouTube following has grown 300 percent. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. The attention hes getting for Southeastern, from the opening recovery track Cover Me Up and the brutally stark Elephant to the full-throttle raver Super 8, feels like its coming at the right time, after hed had ample opportunity to get good at what he does. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. And you got your start professionally at age 15 playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys. To keep the newness from wearing off, for every start theres gonna be a stop. How did you manage to do that? Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires perform at Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. I remember I used to think the force was strong with him, says Tompkins, who signed his first publishing deal when he moved to Nashville at 22. And a lot of its multilayered, the meaning take it like a man. Were proud to be from that area. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there, so I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. The tracks release Probably nobody enjoys it as much as I do, but its not a necessity for survival. Tommy Duncan was the singer. BRANDI CARLILE: (Singing) I was a Highwoman and a mother from my youth. Fellow singer/songwriter Aimee Mann tweeted well wishes to Isbell: Im so sorry. If writing came easier sober, playing live was terrifying at first, he says. And I dont know how I feel about that. And the reason I think that my grandmother knew is because also lately, we found out that my moms oldest sister isnt doesnt have the same dad as her, as my granddad. Is that right? Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. People forget that, if you take away access to reproductive healthcare, youre going to be killing moms like me. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). And in this certain period of time, there was a lot. And if anyone asks me, Ill say whats true I dont know. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. GROSS: Oh, thats so funny. Im not joking. Essentially, shes just a good person. I didnt start learning how to accept my voice until recently. If you see my milk cow, please drive her on home cause I had no milk and butter no since my cows been gone. Will you look at me the same? Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. Another is a freedom rider who died during the Freedom Rides. Why werent you accepting it? This part of my life and our marriage was difficult and it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression, she says. Im going to play fiddle and Im going to sing in. SHIRES: Well, myself and Brandi wrote the song. Im Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, SWIMMER), GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And the fallopian tube just cant it it cant expand enough to accommodate a growing fetus. And I had been internally bleeding for a whole lot of hours. But they took me seriously, but they also knew the seriousness and the impact of the help that they were giving me. Lets get back to the interview I recorded last week with singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires. SHIRES: The audience really never went wild over me because it took me a minute to really learn how to improvise. Its pretty obvious.. So it was just like a week and a half or two weeks afterwards that Texas banned abortion. Im all for freedom, but I think if youre dead, you dont have any freedoms at all, Isbell said. We have to work hard now to mobilize and help people vote. fiddle-playing damn Texan. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. Thank you for doing the interview. GROSS: How did you end up actually playing in the Texas Playboys band? And she would dance a little bit to the Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. "Last night you walked me to my car / You said, 'You won't be getting far before you turn around,'" she sings, her phrasing seesawing and scampering. And why did you want to work it into a song? 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