Learn from the mistakes of others, trust me..you can't live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself, I tried !! Picture album at :http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dickjubinville It can be sprayed as is and use ammonia based windex to clean your airbrush. Rick. You as well, your latest F-4 looks outstanding. Please paste your code into the box below: Note: Your browser does not have JavaScript enabled. Orders placed by 11:00 AM Central Time using the Expedited option will ship the same day. You can also use the Levelling variety, or even Tamiya's own branded lacquer thinner. $24.99 + $11.45 shipping. Spray in light coats so the finish is almost dry as it hits the surface. The one that I've finally relied on is Tamiya Gloss Coat. Fine detail airbrushing requires practice and varies greatly with the equipment and air pressure being used. Glosscote is a lacquer-based clear overcoat, used to seal and protect painted surfaces.It is used for achieving a smooth glossy finish, over flat paint for good decal adhesion, or for a smooth and shiny protective layer.It can be used over all Testor/Pactra/Model Master enamels and acrylics, when latter have dried at least 24 hours or more.Apply in mist applications until desired effect is . 25 characters remaining. Do not shake the bottle to avoid forming bubbles. However, the whole affair has left me a little anxious to the problem, I would like to eliminate the risk altogether, so I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a "safe" gloss coat that can be used over acrylics (I use Tamiya, Vallejo, Lifecolor and am moving away from Gunze because of this). I never give my chalk weathering a final clear finish as there is more than sufficient tooth to the Dullcoat to hold it in place . even when handled from time to time. Make sure you keep your coats thin. So, they sell three bottles of gloss, satin and flat, labeled Custom Enamel System, but the thinner is labeled Custom Enamel System Lacquer Thinner. After countless hours i just can't find anything like this in Australia. I have even used it glue down ballast in a pinch, although I prefer matte medium for that as it doesn't dry as hard. It can be used over all Testor, Pactra and Model Master enamels and acrylics after they have dried. I find that the spray head on the Tamiya cans produces a finer mist than with the old Testors' spray cans. The hobby shop called me, said that Testor's quit producing the thinner they say is the ONLY one to use, but still produce the Gloss and Dullcote. But there nothing better than one's own experience, so you can try yourself and see what you get. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. Rio Grande Zephyr 5771 from Denver, Colorado to Salt Lake City, Utah ASIN : B079VP5ZVD. Discontinuance of the Model Master, Pactra, and Aztek brands was previously announced on Testors' Facebook page. The only issues I have ever had with the Minwax have been when I sprayed too much, too quickly (had same issue with Testors gloss too)that will crinkle up the paint. Testors Lacquer Top Coat Liquid Glosscote 1.75 oz- Give your flat-finished model surfaces a glossy sheen with glosscote top coat. Testors also has an Ultra-High gloss clear that is good too. Pasted as rich text. It is crystal clear in color and designed for use with painted model cars and trucks. I have used both Krylon Gloss Clear and Flat (Matte) Clear for decaling and/or dulling finishes with great results. Just I'm risk averse. Log In. I use their dull coatfor gloss, though, I bought a quart of Minwax "clear gloss lacquer" (the quart cost about the same as 2-3 Testors bottles of gloss). In the US, it is currently called. A little Dullcote goes a long way. "Thru the Rockies", Puffin' & Chuggin', JB But, you can still get the Wet Look Clear and High Gloss Clear. And how much do you thin it? The spray comes in an easy-to-hold 3-ounce can. Maybe the longer dry time for the rattle can is the tradeoff for the better durability over Future. I have been using Testors gloss and dull cotes for over 30 years with. I not sure if everyone knows this but the Future product from Johnsons is a natural product. This crystal-clear finisher is specifically formulated to provide an ultra-glossy finish to assembled model cars, trucks, and more. Dullcote is a lacquer, so a lacquer thinner is what is needed here. To avoid possible wrinkling, recoat within 3 hours or after 48 hours. $7.09. WISH LIST. There is also less chance of "lifting" paint if you use thin coats. Beware that it requires precision mixing ratio to get the desired flat level. If you do what you always did, you'll get what you always got!! I use Testors Dullcoat in the bottle. By It is used for altering glossy surfaces to give them a flat look, and to protect decals. Dec 29, 2016. Testor has created a line oflacquer primers, thinners, and top coats giving modelers that extra edge to craft the paint to the right effect needed for that project. Mikie. This fluid is the most dangerous part of the the whole windscreen fluid, because it's very toxic. Do you need to thin it very much for airbrushing? Date First Available : August 12, 2018. You may use a small soft brush or your fingers to assist you in holding the film in place. Testors 1260 may be labeled as Spray Enamel or as Spray Lacquer. An example : you paint you're model with an acrylic based paint, first let it dry for 24 houres. Do any of you that use it have an alternate that works for you? Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings. Yes both Dullcote and Glosscote will yellow with age - I have a Hasagawa 1/72 P-47 on the shelf that I built back in the early 80s. A single coat is all you need, do not go back and "thicken it up". Too much Flat Base causes the frosty surfaces. You can get MinWax brand semigloss and gloss at your local big box store, but the flat seems to only be available at paint stores. or. Large images may take a few minutes to appear. One advantage is that semi-gloss (semi-matt?) Thinner: - all enamel thinners, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Facebook wall, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Twitter feed, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Pinterest board, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your YouTube page, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Instagram page. I was happy with it, except it seemed to take a long time to dry. Please see FAQ 5 for full Model Master Metalizer instructions. i read that a while back and forgot to bookmark it later on. 255 characters remaining, 25 characters maximum Airbrushing Model Master/Testors Glosscote lacquer, By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. May 22, 2006. http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html. or. 12,838 people like this. I also use the Alclad flat kote which thins with Testors enamelthinner. Choose your favorite color of paint (sold separately), allow it to dry completely, then apply this top . Extend the life of your craft projects with the Testors Spray Paint, Glosscote. Not meant to criticise in any way. Ive used Tamiya X22, but my current favorite is Mission Models Clear Gloss, however I dont know if its available in Austrailia. Anyway, thanks all for the help, much appreciated. About the fact of laying thin layers of paint. that's true, better to lay 5 thin layers then to lay one thick onewhy?? "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash. Uncached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:40:09 CST 2023, Cached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:40:08 CST 2023, Cached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:40:09 CST 2023, Cached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:35:36 CST 2023, Cached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:39:37 CST 2023, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. At the moment i have the Alclad clear coats, gloss and mat stand ready to try, but due to my accident i need to wait a further more to try them out. Many features may not work properly without it. Model Master Testors Enamel Paint In general, use the manufacturer's clear coat. In Australia Future was sold as Pledge One-Go but AFAIK it is no longer available. Acrylics will dry to the touch in minutes; they require 24 hours for a full cure. ADD TO CART. Your link has been automatically embedded. Thanks, Fermis - Have you seen any reactions to finishes, enamel or acrylic? Use this Testors Glosscote Spray Paint over painted surfaces to prevent chipping and to get a smooth glossy finish over flat paint. Dan, I amcurious about the Pledge Floor Gloss. About Lacquer Top Coats & Thinners. Recently I emailed Alclad paints regarding the proper fluid to thin theirAlclad II Lacquer Gloss Klear Kote ALC 310. I was told not to use LT but to use enamel thinner to dilute it. What's the sense of that? I know, many modelers used this, and say, "that works fine for me", but windscreen wiper fluid causes more then only thinning the paint. In general when spraying paints through Aztek airbrushes, the paint should be the consistency of whole milk or thinner. These products work very well in thinning our lacquer paints for use in an airbrush. $7.90) Current Stock: Create New Wish List; SKU: TES1261 UPC: Availability: Orders ship within one business day . After it dries, apply decals with setting solution as needed, allow the decals to dry, then paint edges with more Pledge. Thinner: - 1419 metalizer thinner, Model Master Auto Lacquer My bottle is pretty old too, since I usually use the rattle can. And Tamiya's X-22 is a terrific clear gloss; far superior to floor polish in my opinion, and safe to use over most other paints. Clear editor. 50/50 was what I saw as the common split, what do you do Rick? Display as a link instead, This dead flat finish actually has a good tooth to it. You cannot paste images directly. This item cannot be shipped to the following state(s): 50 characters maximum Product Dimensions : 1.4 x 1.4 x 3.2 inches; 4 Ounces. I've also used Rustoleum gloss and matte clears on all kinds of spray and brush on . Yeah, I know. Depending on what process you will be using after using theTestors products, DO NOTuse mineral based products such as AK Interactive or MIG Ammo weathering products, the mineral spirits will attack the Testors product. Thought I should throw in that tidbit along with the lacquer info. Auto Lacquers will dry to the touch in minutes; they require 24 hours for a full cure. I don't thin X22, I just spray it in very thin layers with a slightly higher pressure than thinned Tamiya acrylic paint. If your URL is correct, you'll see an image preview here. Most Model Master and Testors "Acrylic" paints are pre-thinned for airbrushing. Hold can 10" to 12: from work. For a while I used lacquer thinner at about 50%, but it crazed the paint I was using at the time. Delivery time is estimated using our proprietary method which is based on the buyer's proximity to the item location, the shipping service selected, the seller's shipping history, and other factors. All my reading on high quality finishing and a lot of resin car blogs and builders refer to Future Floor Polish before applying decals. 50 characters remaining, 255 characters maximum No mixing is good You can post now and register later. For clear coats it will yellow in time because of the negative effect of the soap on, one of the substances, the paste. I think lacquer thinner will still work on the acrylics. I regularly use for gloss:Testors GlosscoteAlclad GlossThe original Kleer - PledgeIn each case I start by thinning the gloss to at least 50/50, apply in very thin, light layers and build up the gloss as needed. Thanks. Air pressure should be approximately 18-20 PSI By this I mean products from Modelflex, Polly S and the manufacturer of Microset/Microsol. Quick view. Enamels require 48 hours for a full cure Air presser should be around 18-20 PSI It is also widely available in arts & crafts . Heres a link with a lot of good information on . I prefer Tamiya X22 clear gloss and have also used Gunze's clear gloss (which is nice but not as durable as Tamiya given my experiences). Yep, you can pretty much put anything you want over X-22 once it has cured, save for hot lacquers. Interesting find Prof! White leading edges and tail (SWPA scheme) - several years ago I noticed that when I placed a freshly painted (w/white) model, the P-47 had most definately yellowed. If your Michaels purchase does not meet your satisfaction, you may return it within two months (60 days) of purchase. FWIW, my bottle of glosscote is around 10 yrs old. If anyone has a source in Australia i'm open to options as there is a few floating around and to be honest im not sure i want to go testing each one to find the solution everyone is usuing. It's actually reasonably price in Australia to. By Bill, its not necessary to thin it if you spray it at about 15 - 20psi. I thought I read somewhere that, over time,the glosscoat turns a yellowish color? (outside the Model Master enamels) are the bottled Glosscote and Dullcote. I have used thinner coats when I wanted a semi-gloss or eggshell. I use both Testors gloss and dull cote and use Home Depot LT to thin it about 20% LT and rest Testors stuff. This will help ensure a smooth paint job. The favorite varnish of rock stars! I know there was some question on whether the formulation changed. Picture album at:http://community.webshots.com/user/dickj19 Testors Dullcote! I have also thought of using the Mr. Surfacer UV Cut Gloss Coats, but am a little anxious about trying out a new product. MILORG, I generally go for heavier coats, but that is because I usually am going for a heavier gloss. Product/service . Thanks, Ed - I have plenty of lacquer thinner, DuPont and some Testors for their small bottle clear coats, it's called a lacquer thinner, I'll give a try for a small test batch. I really appreciate the responses, fellas, very helpful. It used to seal and protect painted surfaces. It can be used over all Testor, Pactra and Model Master enamels and acrylics after they have dried. I'm now ready for decals and exploring my options and i'm interested in people experience with them and recommend one or the other, - Testors 1161 Glosscote Lacquer- Mr Hobby 030 Gloss Clear- Humbrol 35 Gloss Varnish- TAMIYA Gloss Clear x22, At the moment i'm leaning towards Testers and following sequence. Model Master Metalizer Please see FAQ 5 for full Model Master Metalizer instructions. Future/Klear is acrylic paint without any pigment. For awhile Testors was offering rattlecans of both enamel and lacquer gloss overcoats. I have in the past used Windex (an ammonia-based window cleaner) to thin Gunze and Tamiya acrylics, and while it works, it seemed to make the paints less durable (as Carl mentioned), and they definitely dried a little softer. Don't know if it's the particular batch, how I thinned it or just the phase of the moon, but yes, it does yellow on occasion. When using Testor Enamels or Model Master Enamels we suggest Testor No. I usually use Future for my clearcoats, but of course you can't if you're going to be doing an acrylic wash and scrubbing that off with windex. Working pressure is approx 12 psi. Being old school and recalling the no lacquer over enamel rule, I called and got this answer. I'd agree with Kev -Tamiya X22 is great. clear polyurethane is readily available. You know, Don, I rattle-canned a coat of glosscoat on my BF-109 WIP, and it turned out pretty good. I am curious to learn the experience of the forum members using the acrylic glosscote/dullcote equivalents. Any decal can be sealed with Testors Glosscote or Dullcoat, but. If you use a dirty brush your gloss coat may have as tint. Join our email list to receive our Weekly Ad, special promotions, fun project ideas and store news. Like many of the traditional - best - Testors products, this requires thinner and may act like a thinner. Gloss, Satin and Flat, but the thinner is called lacquer thinner. You may return the item to a Michaels store or by mail. Gloss Classic White lacquer and the required clear coat are two of the dearly departed products. Unfortunately i got no experience with Testor's clear coats in order to comment further. If you do want to thin it use distilled water. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. It causes the Testors finish todesolve. Best Sellers Rank: #178,031 in Beauty & Personal Care ( See Top 100 in Beauty & Personal Care) #1,154 in Lip Gloss. "Do you thin Future, if so with what? Allow to dry, weather, apply Dullcoat, done. MarcelI paint almost exclusively with acrylics and fortunately have never experienced any cracking problems of either the clear top coats or the paint itself. Jerry. a good smooth metalizer surface shouldn't need any further preparation for decals, unless your afraid that setting solutions might mar the metalizer. It's easy. Make yourself at home with these decor finds, Our spin on fabrics, ribbons, trims & more, "I do" to our wide array of florals & wedding decor, Find cozy yarn & more snuggle season must-haves, Everything you need to serve up a season of style, Dye, stencil & paint your way to something stunning. It can be applied with a brush because of it self leveling properties but you get a better finish from an airbrush. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, This crystal-clear finisher is specifically formulated to provide an ultra-glossy finish to assembled model cars, trucks, and more. Some years of that career i worked in a labo, and there i learned all this stuff. Spray Glosscote 3 oz. If I want an absolutely dead flat finish ( great for applying chalk weathering ) I reduce it by the same proportion with laquer thinners. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylic_paint. You can use Glosscote, if this is the enamel version thin slightly with the Testors Airbrush Thinner and spray about 35 PSI. The formula change happened when they switched to the smaller 10ml bottles. Past month; 5 . Dullcote does only one thing, but it does it extremely well: it gives your minis a glorious flat, matte finish. Help other shoppers make informed decisions by reviewing your purchase. Indeed, it will thin the paint, but later it will effect the paint layer. Community See All. Our community is FREE to join. Spray 3 to 4 light mist coats. I've used the model masters gloss coat and haven't had issues. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. Ah, yes- Future, the SC Johnson marketing department has changed the product name a number of times, to the confusion of housewives, customers and scale modelers around the world. Thinner: - all enamel solvents, Model Master Testors Acrylic I used the Modelflex gloss coat and dull coat and didn't like them at all. I was going to try the laquer thinner blend. One of the first things to remember is to apply a "Light misting coat" to your last color coats before applying a heave wet clear coat once the mist coat has completely dried. Make your models shine using this Testors Glosscote Top Coat! Gloss Pearl Clear Coat Spray Testors $6.90 $6.56. Airbrush Thinning Ratios also works well with Glosscote and Dulcote. I typically do a couple light coats (this will dry to the touch in just minutes), then get a little heavier, with a few more coats. It's fine to spray over cured acrylic cuz it dries quick. As far as I know, the Testors Glosscote and Dullcote have not changed formulas since i started using them in the mid-70's. In that way the first clear coat layer will protect you're underneat acrylic paint, now you can build up safely you're clear coat layers until you are happy with the result. Option B which is far lower cost is to use Future Floor wax which is now called Pledge Floor Gloss. The solvents in the clear coate need time to vaporize, if you put thin layers on you're model, then the solvents will not have the time to tackle the acrylic paint underneat, but vaporize in an instand. Use this Testors Glosscote Spray Paint over painted surfaces to prevent chipping and to get a smooth glossy finish over flat paint. When you put one thick layer of clear coat, the solvents need a long time to vaporize, and will effect the acrylic paint, with the well know results. Our community is FREE to join. All of these thinners are relatively mild, but do a great job on these paints - better than any other alternative I've tried. I'm now ready for decals and exploring my options and i'm interested in people experience with them and recommend one or the other. I have used both the Testers #1159 thinnerand a lacquer thinner (though top shelf, high buck,stuff)from the local Farm & Fleet with success. Chief Engineer, Colvin Creek Railway. Get the latest on trends, best deals and exclusive offers! Add product to wishlist. Many people have good results with it, but i think even more people encounter issues with it. Item not available in Hobby Lobby Stores. I added an image so that we don't need to click on the link. It's the Future that I'm having reaction issues with. Carefully slide the backing paper out from underneath the decal film leaving the film on the application surface. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/sean-p-murphy-designs. Usually I start out with the normal paints at about 25% thinner and thin more from there if it is not quite spraying well. Clear Glosscote Spray Testors Testors. See more of Testors on Facebook. As Volzj stated, experiment with your thinning, ratio. Internal Mix airbrushes such as the A320, A430 and A470 are all capable of using the same interchangeable nozzles, but the double-action controls of the A430 and A470 allow you to exploit the finer points of airbrushing. When I worked at Dunham Studios all we used to glue down ballast and ground cover was clear polyurathane, for the price per gallon and coverage, it was cheaper than white glue, dried much faster and it was dead flat. Thisd product give as nice gloss sheen to swords, hikts and other shiny bits. Thanks, Don. Too much high-pressure air will cause cob webbing. (15) Testors # tes1261. Mikie, also made a very good point regarding "thin coats". I'm interested to see examples of applications if anyone cares to share? I use Testers Model Master Acrylics for to color / base coats leaving a flat finish. What do I use to thin Dullcote so it can be airbrushed? Create new account. Spray 3 to 4 light mist coats. This is a good way to use with all sort's of clear coats, and also color coats of different sort's and brands. It may cost me more, but compared to the cost of the model, it's small. The spray comes in an easy-to-hold 3-ounce can. See question no.39 on "Paint Thinning" for additonal information for paint clean up. I can hear you asking about Dullcote and Glosscote. Pascoes "Long Life" floor polish is an alternative, but, as others have said, any clear acrylic should work. This is a 3 oz. After decalling I've airbrushed a light coat of Testors Dullcote over it to seal the decals with no issues. To participate you must either login or register for an account. The answer to this question is an easy one for me: Tamiya X-22 Clear Gloss acrylic, thinned with Mr. Color Thinner. Heres a link with a lot of good information on Future however, its a few years out of date: http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html. The enamel variety did take a long time to dry. Model Master Auto lacquer is not thinned to spray add 2 parts thinner to 3 parts paint increase drop by drop. Moreover it's not a solvent at all. Share Followers 0. most of your questions are answered. This was however, using their original paint formula which Tamiya changed after many people experienced cracking issues with their paints, especially the clear ones.

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